eric
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Post by eric on Mar 3, 2009 20:37:57 GMT -5
Eric, Remember I what to see a pic of the large warp weighted loom. Now, you've started problems here. My Daughter likes the look of your rigid heddle and would like one. lol At least she is interested weaving, Hope you enjoy this site, paweaver I'll take some photos when the warp weighted loom is finished. Not being one to cause problems, would it solve the problem if I made your daughter one? I'm happy to trade. In fact, she can have the one in the photo if she wants. Let me know. Eric
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Post by paskinner on Mar 4, 2009 0:59:20 GMT -5
Oh Eric,
I was teasing. Yes, she did say that she like it and would like to try weaving with it. But the girl has plenty of things to weave on. I have two inkle looms, two bead looms, one small two harness table loom, a long with other weaving gadgets. These are all used by my children. And right now she is on a knitting kick. I might have to buy a yarn store just to keep my family in fiber. ;D
See she just takes after her mother (I liked it too) and a new weaving tool always looks like fun. The same thing goes for weaving books.
I will keep you in mind for a trade, but right now I owe Phoenix on this forum for a trade. I need to get moving on that. I've also promised each of my children a "first" quality bag designed especially for each of them this year. It seems like I'm always making for someone else and they are watching me with glowing eyes asking "Is that for me?"
paweaver
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Post by hannes on Mar 11, 2009 21:01:18 GMT -5
liza, loren. do you think it would work if i take many half inch by half inch oak slats , sanded nice and smooth and put a threaded bar through them all with half inch spacers inbetween?you showed the strips of weaving you did, which you said you would sew to your sons buckskin pants. it is quite narrow. howide a strip can one weave on that specific loom that you showed?
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eric
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Post by eric on Mar 12, 2009 4:53:29 GMT -5
That might work Hannes, but threaded bar at the top and bottom might still cause some twist in the thing. better to add a crossbar to the top and bottom too to give it stability. You'll still need to drill holes through the middle of each piece though. However, I think it would be very heavy, and might pull the threads out of tension. The weight would pull the threads going through the holes down too much while leaving the ones going through the spaces alone.
This would stretch the threads too much making a looser weave. You need tension on all threads for a tidy, tight weave. These rigid heddles need to be as light as possible. Oak would not be my first choice.
Eric
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Post by paweaver on Mar 13, 2009 22:24:06 GMT -5
hannes,
Sorry, I've been busy with the children's homeschool play.
I guess that my first question to you would be-- are you making a paddle loom or a heddle like Eric's pic? They both weave similar but Eric's would not work for a paddle loom and a paddle loom would not work for the style of heddle weaving Eric does.
I've looked at lots of pics of paddle looms and have recently talked to other styles of tape loom weavers. It is pretty much agreed that in researching paddle looms no two are 100% alike. I would want to use a solid board though. Mine was made from a 23 inch long, 9 1/2 inch wide 3/4 inch oak board. I have seen paddle looms with the top open or with a separate board clamping the top together. How would you hold what you are describing in between your knees? I have seen paddle looms were a hole is drilled both top and bottom and than a saw is used to cut the slats between the drilled holes. Often they will stagger the holes a little. (one higher, one a little lower, one higher, one a little lower.)
When I first saw someone weaving on paddle loom. I ask doesn't that get heavy? But the way you hold it between your knees and the way the thread are tensioned keeps it from being heavy. Hard wood is preferred because a soft wood gets fuzzy from the threads wearing back and forth on it. Than is fuzziness causes the threads themselves to weaken and fuzz.
Another difference in the looms is mine has room for 47 threads. Eric's loom hold a much smaller number of threads. Eric's is set up to use thicker cord or threads. My is set up for very fine work. Mainly because that is what I like to do. My loom could be adjusted for thicker cords if I wanted it that way. Right now I using 32 threads, and it is giving me a tape that is one inch wide. If I chose to work with thicker threads it would be wider.
If you want to weave something wider, it can be done on a backstrap loom (its heddles need to be light. I've seen them made from Popsicle sticks or doctor's tongue depressors) or a loom that is a rectangle. Some people actually make them out of old window frames. I do not have mine warped up at the moment though so I can not give you pics. On this type of loom you can make your heddle out of a round rods and string. This loom can be used to make twined rugs also. Also you can weave as big as you make your frame. This style is similar to a tapestry loom.
I'm not sure how much help I was. If you have questions please ask. There is no harm and trying to make one the way you suggested. Again remember that no two are alike. I just order a book on tape looms and the back third of the book is suppose to have pics of many of the tape looms that have been found. The reason that it takes up so much room in the book is because of them all being so different.
Good luck, Liza paweaver
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Post by paweaver on Mar 14, 2009 5:36:53 GMT -5
I forgot to mention that an 1/2 inch on my paddle loom covers three threads. ( slot, drilled hole, and another slot.)
The more I think about it, if you already have the 1/2 oak slats, you could make a small table loom like my children have. I will try to post a pic of it tomorrow. This style of loom would give you more variety in what you could weave. And again you could make it small or big the choice would be yours. Often these looms are made out of softer wood.
paweaver
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Post by hannes on Mar 14, 2009 21:39:02 GMT -5
eric, liza ,thanks for your responce.i would like to make one like you showed liza. i now realize it would be heavy with the threaded bar through it eric. i found some oregon[spelling] pine.might try a few slats to see how smooth i can sand it. i know it tends to splinter which would make it unsuitable. i have printed your whole posting of ur loom liza. will study it afew times until i cant sleep one whole night, and then i will be able to make it, and then it normally works out 100 percent. as a matter of interest, we get many young people to whoof on our farm. it means that they come and stay here for a while and for their help they get accomodation and food. they are all from overseas. when they apply to come here my prerequisite is that they must come and teach us some handcraft from their home country. a lady came from holland and taught us bobbin lacing. seen it? when they do it ,it looks as if they play a church organ. we also had a guy from ghana who brought us samples of their "kantei" cloth, bout 4 inches wide, but he could not descibe the process of making it. will try and post a picture soon. thanks again for the input
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Post by paskinner on Mar 24, 2009 21:59:38 GMT -5
Hannes,
Would a vanish finish help the splintering? I know a good oiling helps my homemade knitting needles from splintering.
Eric's rigid heddle needs to be light because of the way you lift it. Mine can be heavier because I lift the yarns instead of it.
I would love to see pics of what you come up with.
Yes, I know what bobbin lace is. My daughter is trying to learn it. But it is going rather slowly. The people who teach it in Pittsburgh want $60.00 dollars or more for an hour lesson. I bought her a book that I can follow the drawings and graphs in, however now we need to find the time to teach ourselves. This is one of my goals for this summer.
I would like to see pics of that cloth too if possible.
I am anxious to get back to my tape loom. I bought a book about tape weaving and want to try some of the ideas in it out. They actually had one that was on a pedestal with a rocker on the bottom. It had a pic of the man weaving on it. You just rock it to change the thread warp. I think that it would rock away from you, but curiosity killed the cat (This is a saying here) and I might try to make a base for mined just to "see" how it really did work. It is obvious that this tape loom was used by the pics.
Need to run, paweaver
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