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Post by paskinner on Sept 6, 2008 22:02:42 GMT -5
How do ya'll treat your traps? I still do the old dye and wax. I finally got around to putting them in the pot today and boiling. It's that time of year, cooling off a bit and the smell of boiling sumac in the air, gotta love it.
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Post by Cody ( The Patriot ) on Sept 7, 2008 10:32:31 GMT -5
your giveing me the fever PA .We do ours the same way .All these new ways just make my skin crawl ,maybe they are ok but it just aint what we was taught to do and I enjoy doing it the old way anyhow and it give us a taste of it before we can really go at it .
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Post by beaudro on Sept 7, 2008 11:19:36 GMT -5
PA, i use logwood dye. Back in Texas I used greasewood , but it doesn't grow around here in oklahoma. How big is the sumac you find around there? im' wanting some for pipe stems.
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Post by paskinner on Sept 7, 2008 12:15:29 GMT -5
The sumac berries are pretty good sized. That's a pot that a tree came in, probably holds almost two bucket fulls.
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Post by beaudro on Sept 7, 2008 14:04:26 GMT -5
They produce big enough berry clusters to be big enough, i'm needing the trunks of the whole tree. About 2 or 3 inches around. Dead ones are the best if you can find a section that isn't checked and split cracked. thanks PA,
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Post by paskinner on Sept 7, 2008 16:49:28 GMT -5
Beaudro, Sorry, misunderstood. I can probably get you some that thick. How many you want?
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Post by Cody ( The Patriot ) on Sept 7, 2008 17:11:19 GMT -5
Pa is that the poisin sumac that makes you itch? We have a sumac here that has berries something like that .You dye traps with that?
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Post by paskinner on Sept 7, 2008 18:14:58 GMT -5
Cody, No, I think it's called staghorn sumac, not poisoness. In fact, you can actually use the berrys to make a very tart drink kind of like lemonade. You can also barktan with it, if you can get a strong enough solution. It is very common around here. I've also used black walnut hulls for dying traps and hides.
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Post by beaudro on Sept 7, 2008 19:41:49 GMT -5
thanks PA, many of the traditional peace pipe stems were made of sumac. After it sets up the very center core called the pith begins to rot. At the right time it's so easy to push right out you can almost blow it out. If it sits up and doesn't check or split it'll make a beautiful wood. I find a good one, cut it to length, clean out the pith with a wire, brass brazing rods work great. then put it in a vise, take a draw knife and start flattening two sides, or you can carve a twist in it. It's hard to find good sumac around here, if i had access to any it would be small , in the ditches they'll cut it before it ever gets big enough. would be best to find it cut and laying for about a year, but most of them will be checking and not any good. If i have to i'll take green ones and set them aside for a year or more. Thanks PA, i sent a pm, and hang on to your black walnuts!
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Post by oregondoc on Sept 9, 2008 9:55:15 GMT -5
This will be the first year that I have had to dye traps in a long time. Backhome in Alaska, we didnt have to dye them..... I have to laminate and grind the jaws 3/16 as well as center swivel the coyote traps. i am going to have to learn to set on dry ground all over again. Thats ok though, from the auctions last year, looks like we might be able to make a little spending money and have a good time as well. But back to the question, I am using walnut hulls this year. Jon
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Post by paskinner on Sept 9, 2008 11:00:32 GMT -5
I took them out of the dye yesterday. I hosed off the excess dye and gunk and let them dry in the sun. Then I heat up pure wax and dip them, usually about five at a time. The open fire calls for caution-a hot plate or such is safer, but I keep the fire small and keep a peice of tin handy to smother it if it does catch on fire. Ready to go: oregondoc, Do you have to do all that because of state laws?
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Post by Cody ( The Patriot ) on Sept 9, 2008 19:03:50 GMT -5
Hey Pa your really giveing me the fever now I really like dyeing traps thats what I do when I cant stand the wait anymore
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Post by paskinner on Sept 9, 2008 19:51:03 GMT -5
When does your season start? We start here near the end of October, fur is still a little iffy then, tho'.
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Sept 9, 2008 19:55:59 GMT -5
trapping season starts around these parts in november and runs through march or april.
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Sept 9, 2008 20:05:31 GMT -5
my dad was at our hunting lease today working on a stand. when he looked up and seen a young coyote watching him. daddy being on the side of a loggin road he went to his truck to get his pistol. one of those new fangled 380 semi automatic kind of pistoles. he watched the coyote from his truck trying to deciede if the shot was too far for the pistol when the yote started coming to him. daddy shot him and i now have a coyote hide to tan. it still as hot as hades here but this yote dog had a thick fur on him. cody this is down from where we was the other day, looking at that big beaver pond. daddy said since the rain last night there were a bunch of coyote tracks. looks like we may have our hands and traps full this year if'n your game
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