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Post by bamaman on Aug 12, 2009 14:52:45 GMT -5
Well, I got me some purty hides from Billy. I want to experiment with walnut hull dyeing and braintan. Before I risk my hides in yet another 'learning process' has anyone ever done much of this? Can you direct me to a tutorial or let me know how it's done?
Also, what kind of results can I expect?
Thanks for the help...
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Post by paskinner on Aug 12, 2009 15:46:11 GMT -5
I know it was done and the re enactors here in the east seem to like everything brown, but man, I hate to take a nice soft hide and make it tighter by putting it in a dye solution. Isn't as painful if you dye the hide, then soften it.
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Aug 12, 2009 18:32:54 GMT -5
i have stayed away from black wal nut hull dying. but that 's just me the hides i have seen, that was wal nut hulled dyed didn't look much darker
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Post by beaudro on Aug 12, 2009 18:53:32 GMT -5
I don't think it is as common anymore to dye with walnuts, some are still doing it to get that old dirty look, and most are realizing that it's fake looking. This is mostly the case with fabrics but a few will dye braintan with walnuts. If you wanted to make it look dirty I'd go out and get it dirty instead of using walnuts. But if you want to replicate those articles in history that did dye with walnut I would research it good and make sure it fits with your time and place to make worth the while. A small peice , maybe like a knife sheath or something isn't so bad, but any clothing I sure wouldn't dunk it in walnuts.
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Post by bamaman on Aug 13, 2009 8:05:11 GMT -5
I am making a shooters bag that I thought about dyeing. That and some fabric, but certainly not a big piece of braintan clothing...
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Post by paskinner on Aug 13, 2009 9:06:39 GMT -5
Oh, yeah, for bags, I really like dyed buckskin. It's kind of like barktanning, just soak it in there until your satisfied with it and rinse out the excess color.
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Post by paskinner on Aug 13, 2009 14:56:59 GMT -5
Ok, to be more clear, all the dying I've done tightens up the hide. So I don't like to mess with it if I want soft buckskin. For a bag, softness isn't that important, and it looks cool to do beadwork or quillwork on real dark dyed buckskin. Make sense?
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Post by longtrail on Aug 21, 2009 8:12:42 GMT -5
Years ago when Musselshell Traders were active, we would get orders for GREEN dyed hides for Roger's Rangers reinactors. I have no idea what they dyed their hides with as we refused to do it for them. Never did see a photo of anyone dressed in green hides. anyone? Museum of the Fur Trade out of chadron Neb. has a sketchbook series with clothing and accoutrements from all periods and the had one specifically on Rogers Rangers. Interesting the woodland styles from the east. lt
Hey Caretaker !!!!!!!
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Post by chaz629 on Aug 21, 2009 9:12:47 GMT -5
i use walnut hulls to dye some moccs and bags,gets a dirty look,if you dry in the sun will turn black,i dont use on braintan with a nice smoking it looks way better left like that,i make alot of moccs and alot of bags and surprisingly enough i do get alot of requests for walnut hull dyed leather,but dont use it on the stuff i keep for myself
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Post by joanne2 on Aug 21, 2009 9:16:47 GMT -5
Hey Rit dye works great. Can't say as I did anything with my dyed hides but trade them off.. lol.. but some things you just don't know about till you try them. I'd say that I could probably dye a skin dk chocolate brown and then rebreak SOFT after dying and still retain that rich color..MAYBE.. lol.. I'd have to want it pretty bad and then it would take that ever so fleeting TIME factor!
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Post by beaudro on Aug 21, 2009 9:55:14 GMT -5
For the Rogers Rangers green was the common color, i'm betting that was back when people assumed leggings were buckskin, now it's more common to wear leggings of green (rateen) wool. Buckskin breeches were worn, but not common to use braintan as fish oil tan was widely used as the British norm.
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Post by caretaker on Aug 21, 2009 10:12:46 GMT -5
i love to read these post. The welth of knowledge and exchange of information is amaziing. Thank all of you. I may not always comment but beleive me I am doin my best to take it all in.
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Post by bamaman on Aug 21, 2009 10:15:30 GMT -5
Thanks a ton for the info guys(and gals)... but I just can't do it to billy's hides. I'm almost done making a double shooters bag and it is looking so good, I just don't think I could risk messing it up. It's a good discussion though
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Aug 21, 2009 11:12:44 GMT -5
well get the lead out and get some pictures posted bamaman, so we can see what that bag looks like
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Post by bamaman on Aug 21, 2009 19:06:41 GMT -5
lol alright Billy, here ya go this is what I have done so far Here is a side view showing the double pouch Here is a view of the pocket I put in to hold my ball mold Here is kind of what it will look like when I finish sewing the front flap onto it
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