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Post by paweaver on Aug 18, 2009 18:05:30 GMT -5
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Aug 18, 2009 21:14:04 GMT -5
great video thanks for sharing. i done watched them twice apiece,
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Post by Cody ( The Patriot ) on Aug 18, 2009 21:41:55 GMT -5
That was cool ,dont know if I would have any traps the next day stakin them like that but sure did injoy it
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Post by paweaver on Aug 19, 2009 7:11:28 GMT -5
Glad you all enjoyed it. The traded furs would of probably been dried fur instead of soft tanned ones. But no one is prefect. And they did a much better job than I could of done.
Cody, Were you thinking of the thin string on the drowning set getting chew through?
paweaver
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Post by Cody ( The Patriot ) on Aug 19, 2009 7:36:21 GMT -5
Yup I guess they was thinking of it going out in deep water and drowning but with that much slack it could have gone that far on the bank.But I loved the video
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Aug 19, 2009 12:37:10 GMT -5
it is documented that the rocky mountain beaver trapper used hemp rope to add length to a chain. i have wondered the same thing as you have cody. i have heard a beaver won't chew on hemp. don't know how true that to be though. i have also heard that a beaver would get tangled up in the rope and the weight of the trap and chain held him down. again that is just hear say, but there has to be something to it because of all the beavers they trapped in the good old days
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Post by Cody ( The Patriot ) on Aug 19, 2009 15:41:53 GMT -5
I dont know about the hemp thing but I never chewed on it or smoked it neither hehehe but I recon it would work if you made it where it would tangle up but he staked his trap too close to the bank it would have had to be stretched out straight away to work .Ive had fellers tell me the weight of the trap will drown one but I always try to help some some how..
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Aug 19, 2009 17:21:38 GMT -5
i hear you pard, i don't think no 5 pound trap would had drowned them two beavers we caught, down by my deer stand that time. them boogers were big
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Post by paskinner on Aug 19, 2009 19:21:56 GMT -5
I've heard different things about how fastened their traps. I'm sure that only about half the beaver would be drowned, but if they checked often, it wouldn't matter much. I've seen demos where a guy would just take a big trap, long chain and wire it up to springy brush. This was up in the 'Dacks, upper New York. They said the beaver would just be sitting there chewing brush when you came back.
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Post by beaudro on Aug 20, 2009 6:39:16 GMT -5
Lately, since the start of building a trap, i've been reading plenty on how the rocky mountain trappers worked. The outfits that trapped the most, Osborne Russell, or Bonneville might be the two most active. Others either don't mention it , or they actually traded with natives to get their bounty in beaver plews. But it's obvious that each trap set by any of them was done with the skill of a master. Experienced trappers knew that a lost beaver only meant diving to retrieve a beaver and/or trap. Many of the 5 lb english traps, and the Miles Standish that were known had many complaints. Chains, jaws , broken springs, and other problems existed. It's mentioned several times about the chain on the 5 lb trap would break. It's also obvious that each set was intended to drown the beaver, and it probably would have if the trap was made better. Bonneville gives a clue that if the beaver was drowned quickly it would leave less of a trace for thieves to find the set. I might beleive half did not drown as planned, the other half was successful.
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Post by Cody ( The Patriot ) on Aug 20, 2009 7:50:39 GMT -5
Yup Ive lost a couple and they is tough to retrieve ,My goal is to drown them quick as my expirience is ifn you dont theys gone .When I snare them alive they sure mow down everything in site
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Post by paweaver on Aug 20, 2009 8:47:28 GMT -5
I've trapped beavers in #11's and 1.5's and they'll be sitting waiting for you. Most of these were caught by accident in coon sets early on and released. I have caught them this way on purpose in #2's with offset jaws, lots of swivels, and just staked solid. It's like coon trapping, you want them staked where they can't tangle on anything. It works, but I always got too many sprung traps to suit me, so now I usually go with snares or body grippers. The nice thing about snares is, if you miss them, they are not spooked of that little cable and you get another shot at them.
Opps, this is Loren talking, btw.
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Post by caretaker on Aug 20, 2009 15:26:46 GMT -5
I do not do any trapping but throughly enjoyed the videos.
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Post by redcoat on Aug 26, 2009 19:23:39 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing those links. They are very well made. Lots of good historical info. Thanks also to those who made the video. I was not aware of the Spokane house. Now I have some more research to do, and maybe another place to visit.
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