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Post by paskinner on Apr 14, 2011 20:20:35 GMT -5
I got these stone scrapers from a flintknapper on Paleoplanet. and after framing and drying the hide for about three days... I'm way out of practice with dryscraping in general, and never did it with stones, but once I got going, it moved right along..click for video. I went over the hide twice, more in some areas and still missed some grain. I decided to do the hide sort of primitive as far as bucking, so used ashes and rinsed it in the creek, which resulted in a dark brown hide that was still light brown once I softened it. I was real happy with it, nice and silky soft. This was a fun project to do while waiting for "normal" hides to dry, I'd like to do some more stone scraping for fun and for demos. This stuff is addicting, and really, if you can dryscrape with metal, you can do it with stone, just don't expect a perfectly scraped hide the first time.
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Post by Cody ( The Patriot ) on Apr 14, 2011 22:45:43 GMT -5
Can sure see the difference cant you .Ive been told that places where older indians are that they would come up to you and look at your braintan to see if you were a wet or dry tanner
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Post by phoenix1967 on Apr 15, 2011 12:46:35 GMT -5
I would imagine it is much like scraping with a serrated knife. The quaility of the edge affects the finish doesnt it?
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Post by fishinmusician on Apr 15, 2011 16:20:48 GMT -5
Nice Job! I'll have to try that someday, but I'm not much of a dry-scraper.
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Post by paskinner on Apr 15, 2011 21:48:15 GMT -5
I would imagine it is much like scraping with a serrated knife. The quaility of the edge affects the finish doesnt it? Yep, seems like the thinner the edge and the finer the teeth, the better job you can do. The little fine teeth do catch the grain nice. I expected it to be harder than it was, and expected to be having to sharpen them all time, but that really wasn't the case. Not that I'm ready to quit wetscraping or anything.
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Post by ThunderMoon on Apr 16, 2011 18:37:04 GMT -5
Nice job!!!! Great video....I like the texture it leaves.I have quite a few rubbing stones and scrapers as i worked for the road dept. here in Ca. and i also collect them,just got a real nice one recently,i'll have to give it a try just to say i did it..Thanks for the video.I think it is a scraper anyway..In the little frame.
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Post by whitedove on Apr 16, 2011 21:41:57 GMT -5
Hello PaSkinner, That was interesting.Enjoyed those videos.It just like a workshop,people can view,the processes and if they wish,return to the learning lab.And I notice many times the products used are mentioned,and that 's very helpful.
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Post by paskinner on Apr 18, 2011 14:48:00 GMT -5
I put the largest stone in a stick and made a staking tool. It needs a better handle and needs glued it, but works ok. Dulled it pretty good, so it wouldn't actually cut into the hide, but it's still abrasive. A slightly sharp staker is good because of how it breaks up the hides surface as you soften. We had a very rare dry and breeze day last week, so I was softening one hide outside and a couple inside the shed.
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Post by phoenix1967 on Apr 18, 2011 16:01:26 GMT -5
alright, some of us dummy's (well, THIS one anyway) dont know what a staking tool is, or what it does. I got the scraper, that's kinda self explanatory.... could I get a better look at the tool, and a brief explanation of it's use?
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Post by paskinner on Apr 18, 2011 17:32:08 GMT -5
Phoenix, Did you click on the picture? It's a video. The staker in this case, is just a stick with a rounded blade on it used to work (soften) a hide on the frame. A plain stick will work, but something that bites in moves the fibers better.
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Post by phoenix1967 on Apr 18, 2011 19:30:14 GMT -5
no, the dumb injun didnt click the pic, I didnt know it was a video. I'll just don my dunce cap and go drool in a corner somewhere, never mind me....
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Post by huntingtag08 on Apr 18, 2011 22:22:46 GMT -5
Really cool, PAskinner.
I pick up rocks that look like that all the time. They are mostly limestone or granite and have come out of a crusher, but I still grab them and think what they could be used for. Great videos, too.
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Post by ThunderMoon on Apr 20, 2011 19:42:10 GMT -5
The ones i have were dug up with a dozer or turned up doing shoulder work with a road grader.The one flat ter one still has berry stains on it from cruching some type of berry and hand oils still on a couple,they were found in the Tule lake area.
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Post by paskinner on May 29, 2011 7:59:07 GMT -5
More stone tools-got two staker blades the other day. Works real good. I put the other in a handle to work hides on frames-it abrades and softens at the same time.
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Post by phoenix1967 on May 29, 2011 21:42:39 GMT -5
That's just too awful cool brother... Be interesting to see and feel the hide done with all stone tools
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