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My Hat
Mar 10, 2008 23:41:01 GMT -5
Post by Grizz on Mar 10, 2008 23:41:01 GMT -5
Here's my hat. Started out with a wool felt blank. Trimmed and shaped it then added a braided rawhide band with a feather. Nothing special just thought I'd share a pic.
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My Hat
Mar 11, 2008 4:15:28 GMT -5
Post by joanne on Mar 11, 2008 4:15:28 GMT -5
Perhaps your hat was knitted and felted, Redthunder? I've made a few of these. You knit a way oversize hat then purposely shrink and 'felt' it, then shape it to fit and dry.
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My Hat
Mar 11, 2008 6:24:53 GMT -5
Post by chuck on Mar 11, 2008 6:24:53 GMT -5
cool hats all, Grizz nice hat holder LOL.
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My Hat
Mar 11, 2008 8:10:49 GMT -5
Post by joanne on Mar 11, 2008 8:10:49 GMT -5
It's the reason that a lot of our people are illiterate, Redthunder. There are a lot of word sounds that need to be memorized. Very difficult. I give you very much credit for learning our language. You are awesome. ;D
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My Hat
Mar 11, 2008 10:44:34 GMT -5
Post by longtrail on Mar 11, 2008 10:44:34 GMT -5
I have been looking for a very thick wool felt hat. Think maybe I could order one from someone next fall? I see them in stores, but they are thin, I want one that is very thick and stiff. (shutup). I saw some on ebay that a gal was making but the felt was thin. The sheepskin one is very interesting. But any as long as they have thickness and hold their shape. I hate the droopy brim look. lt
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My Hat
Mar 11, 2008 11:23:13 GMT -5
Post by Cody ( The Patriot ) on Mar 11, 2008 11:23:13 GMT -5
Me too I want one if anybody know where?
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My Hat
Mar 11, 2008 11:52:40 GMT -5
Post by beaudro on Mar 11, 2008 11:52:40 GMT -5
I'm looking at several that I have bought, trying to find the perfect hat for me. I have four black ones like Grizzly's in his pic. I bought one from crazy crow, it's sagging bad. I bought another wool blank from townsend, it's holding up a little better but not much. My dirty billy is doing good, but it's expensive. www.dirtybillyshats.com/. i've bought a few other wool blanks, but later on i've have to stiffen them up with starch. I don't know how thick you want one, most of the blanks you buy are pretty much all the same. I just bought a good one from clearwater, but again expensive. I bought another from stitchers cabin, it was the best price and stiff as a board. stitchersm.tripod.com/hats.htm . they did me real good over there, for around 40 bucks i got a good deal on that hat,, might not be thick enough for you though?
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My Hat
Mar 11, 2008 14:27:22 GMT -5
Post by joanne on Mar 11, 2008 14:27:22 GMT -5
I won't mess with making them for other folks. might be different if I had mannequin heads of all different sizes and a pattern and the wool yarn made up to go by to get into doing these but there really isn't that much to making these. you can purchase the wool yarn and the patterns that are either very loosely knit or crocheted, doesn't matter, after their felted(shrunk) then they are shaped to fit and allowed to dry.. so not a whole lot into doing them, I'm just not into doing them ...PA WEAVER?? hint hint! the ones I made did not last long! another labor of love.. I'm not much into knitting and spinning anymore.. (I tan hides. lol)
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My Hat
Mar 11, 2008 14:46:29 GMT -5
Post by longtrail on Mar 11, 2008 14:46:29 GMT -5
Red thunder, can you explain further how that hat was made? Not that Iam going to give it a try, just wondering. Dlt
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My Hat
Mar 12, 2008 10:33:38 GMT -5
Post by paweaver on Mar 12, 2008 10:33:38 GMT -5
O.k. I try to explain my research on this. I think that maybe someone else could word it better. That I know of there are two basic ways to felt. 1. Knit loose and oversize and than felt in hot water and agitation (washer) This causes your item to shrink.I've done a pair of slippers this way. I put moose hide bottoms on them. They are going on 4 yrs old. I've also done toys for the children this way. They all come out soft and very, very warm. 2.If the wool is processed to the roving stage. You than can take the wool roving ( looks like at cotton ball stretched out, but many times bigger) and layer it. Each time that you add a new layer you change the direction that the wool fibers are going, thus crossing the fibers to make it stronger. Each layer should be all going the same way. Next layer a different way. After putting down as many layers as you want than you add warm water and agitation and a little soap helps too. Agitation can be as simple as walking on it in you bare feet. My vet has a pair of mittens that she made in this manner. They are very thick and dense. She loves them, never has cold hands. But they are not a flexible as our normal mittens today. Felting this way can also be done over forms like a ball, etc for hats and different objects. The kids and I felted over plastic Easter eggs. Cut the felt and popped out the plastic egg. Than we felted snakes over pipe cleaners to put into our eggs. I have heard and read that you can do another variations of this by weaving roving on a loom loosely, However, I need to do more research on this. I want to experiment with braiding the roving someday. Now, back to hats. What I know most about is cowboy hats though I haven't bought one for over 10 yrs. So correct me if I wrong. A good stiff hat requires many layers of wool. In the hat band of a good wool hat it will have X's on it telling what grade of hat it is. My black wool cowboy hat has XX premium wool printed on it. It goes back to you get what you pay for. The more X's the better the hat will keep it's shape. For any one who wants to play with this you can buy wool roving on ebay just make sure to ask if it will felt. Some wools do not felt well. We have a survival skill book that goes into this. I had it out last night,but can't find it now. I will post the name of it later. Red Thunder please comment on the process for your hat. I would of loved to seen the making of it. I belong to two weaving and spinning gilds. I love learning from the older ones, while actually anyone, but I love the way the older ones eyes light up when they are teaching me.
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My Hat
Mar 12, 2008 12:43:11 GMT -5
Post by longtrail on Mar 12, 2008 12:43:11 GMT -5
Great information. Thanks so much for taking time to explain. I really appreciate it. I will wait for the name of the book. It seems like hats like that would sell well here in central montana. lt
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My Hat
Mar 12, 2008 21:19:05 GMT -5
Post by paweaver on Mar 12, 2008 21:19:05 GMT -5
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