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Post by phoenix1967 on Mar 23, 2008 23:20:58 GMT -5
Instead of pine pitch, cyanoacrylate (super glue) will seal it permanent. With horn, a light sanding will remove all traces and make the repair almost invisible.
Just an old knifeslingers trick
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Post by beaudro on Mar 24, 2008 20:32:35 GMT -5
yes sir Pheonix, i have used super glue , cyanoacrylate makes one heck of a finish on wood for my lathe work as well,,, but on my powder horns I like to stay with in the bounds of authenticity, at least i'm suppose to. Nobody would ever know, but it takes the fun out of re-enacting if I cheat with super glue,,, but you are right, thats some good stuff.
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Post by oregondoc on Mar 24, 2008 22:25:00 GMT -5
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Post by beaudro on Mar 25, 2008 19:57:01 GMT -5
doc thats looking real good, think you found your calling? your taking your time to do it right, I just sort of whittled on mine and came up with whatever. Sorry to hear about your father and I know how it goes, i went through the same thing. Looks like you got good horns to work with , on the last picture how are you cutting out your engrailing? I havn't tried much of the wood chisel, but I think it's going to beat the use of knives , our fingers will thanks us.
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Mar 25, 2008 21:47:35 GMT -5
real nice work there doc
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Post by oregondoc on Mar 25, 2008 21:52:36 GMT -5
I have a small gouge that I came up with at a garage sale who knows when. I bought a small set of files from the cheap tool store a while back. I used the rat tail to do the ring around it. I used a flat and a half round to smooth it up.I had a friend make a form on his lathe a few months back. The Lady Friend, who is much more talented than I ,can help me with the scrimshaw. I am sure that a scalpel will come into play sometime, just seems right you know! But yes, much watch out for the fingers.
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Post by beaudro on Mar 31, 2008 7:03:44 GMT -5
hows the horn coming along? I got a new raw horn this weekend, maybe between all my other projects i'll get time to start on it.
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Post by oregondoc on Mar 31, 2008 22:07:41 GMT -5
well, I got the engrailing done around where I started, thats about it. Been very busy . I had a sitter for my Father on Sunday, and I hit the road to the hills for a few hours. Was a wonderful day with the little lady. I ordered the book on horns, and it should be here on the 7th it says. Until then, I will try and get to it when I can. You know how that goes. Sounds good on the ram horn, I have some of those as well as a hemsbeck?spelling? horns. I sure do like the look of some of the work I see online. Jon
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Post by beaudro on Mar 31, 2008 22:56:46 GMT -5
that was raw horn oregon, although I have seen a few goat , rams, sheep, and even a turtles tail used as a powder horn before. I posted a cool pic of a powder horn on here a while back of a turtle tail,, dried out, made into a powder horn. I don't know what gave the guy the idea, but it wasn't half bad looking. I won a really white cow horn this last weekend, it just needs a turned walnut base and a little carving and it's going to make a really nice scrimshaw horn. Maybe soon i'll get to start on it.
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Post by oregondoc on Mar 31, 2008 23:43:19 GMT -5
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Post by beaudro on Apr 3, 2008 9:16:33 GMT -5
kathy sibley? yeah, she's a good scrimmer, would love to afford some of her work. I ended up with that horn from the trade shoot. I couldn't beleive nobody wanted an all white horn, has a cool shape to it also. I meant to suggest something but just thought of it, In Sibley's book you'll see him using a sand bag to help hold the horn on the work bench. I keep meaning to make one and I think i got a plan now of making one. I'm going to try not to fill it with sand too much so it will cradle the horn best. As things slow down around here soon, I'll get soonergirl to take some pics and we'll work on that project. I'm going to make another post about using dried corn in a bag for a heating pad... check that out, you may like it.
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Post by intothewest1836 on May 4, 2011 2:01:44 GMT -5
bought a new horn and it is ingraled some. the tip looks like it was painted black. the body looks like it was painted yellow. I tried to post photo but cant figure it out. I want to fix this horn and make it right for a trapper. did horns get painted? it also has a strap 3 inches wide
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Post by beaudro on May 4, 2011 13:36:26 GMT -5
I'm thinking you mean dyed or stained , although there are some painted horns. A few years ago, after a common book came out , everyone started aging their horns. The tip black, the rest of the horn in a yellowish color. Some originals apparently are stained black below the engrailing out to the tip. The yellow is suppose to mimic the aging process, I doubt the body of a horn was commonly stained for any reason. I'm not sold on artificial patinas and aging , I think it's best to leave the article alone as it was new back in the day. For instance, many horns you find on contemporary markets will have a yellowish dye , no scratches dents or dings, then a coat of wax covering it all to make it shine after it's been polished on a high speed buffing wheel. The wood plug is beautifully turned with a brand new finish. That just looks weird to me. A real horn would be roughed up and should have black suet on it. Another example of a bad horn is when they use toothpics to hold the cap, in the event that the horn ever explodes it will break off the toothpics and vent through the cap. The idea isn't bad, the problem is that many will use epoxy to hold the cap anyway. Thats an odd thing you'll find. You can probably re-sand that horn back down and remove some of the artificial patina , you can leave the spout black if you want. I'd lose the wide strap and find a leather thong, thats the most common. Here's some pics of originals , first and last look to be painted tips,
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Post by ThunderMoon on May 4, 2011 13:43:13 GMT -5
yep ya gotta hve a powder horn. i got a set of lrger horns i cleaned up if you need them. I don't know how to make them.they have a nice butterscotch color.
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Post by intothewest1836 on May 4, 2011 19:02:36 GMT -5
maybe I can get the old lady to put photos up later. I got out some sanding paper and nocked off all the yellow. it looks better now. you right beu it dont make sense to age it if it looks like it was never used. it had a ton of wax on it and smelt like car wax.
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