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Post by longtrail on Jul 16, 2008 19:29:40 GMT -5
We finally got this finished and mailed today. The buyer likes to adorn the bed himself. It is pretty common to see strips of wool run up each edge. six by three.
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Post by redthunder on Jul 16, 2008 19:33:39 GMT -5
looks great, good thing the buyer like adorn what he/she like.,
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Post by killstwo on Jul 16, 2008 21:43:26 GMT -5
Looks great Longtrail!
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Post by beaudro on Jul 19, 2008 8:38:47 GMT -5
I'm doing some research on Willow beds, and willow back rest. I started collecting willow this week also. I could use some input from everyone , i'll even let you help cut and gather the willow. It's pretty stuff, and since we bought a tipi i'm fire up to decorate it and set up camp like one should. The willow bed might be the answer to the problem with making the correct camp bed for rendezvous. I found these drawings and with a few more truck loads of willow i might be able to make a pair of these.
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Post by longtrail on Jul 19, 2008 9:11:34 GMT -5
Is that all one piece? Or two back rests end to end? NIce. So you got a lodge eh? We have been talking about it. Have lived in a lodge both summer and winter, might have to again sometime! When is the house, er, lodge warming party? You will be surprised at how straight the willows seem to be until you get them back and start using them. I usually end up with 1/4th of the willows I cut, not being straight enough. Was going to ask RT if he makes his back rest with dried willow of if he uses them while they are soft and green. When we get back from cutting, we peel the bark off. This time of year, and especially in the spring, the bark peels off in long strips. In winter, they have to be scraped, but I like the finished product better because there is more color on the sticks, plus gathering in the winter means no bugs!! After the sticks are peeled, I cut them to length, then tie in bundles of 8 or so. I tie them with bailing twine, on each end as close as possible and then two more times to hold them tight and straight. Then after a few days they are dry. dlt. Have fun. dlt
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Post by joanne2 on Jul 19, 2008 9:22:07 GMT -5
Nice work, LT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beaudro, Congrats on the tipi.. my son's starting to cry over ours not being mended but hard to get so much done in so little time.. been re-siding our polebarn and I'm wishing I was fixing my tipi and braintanning, too. LOL.. What kinda lodge did you get? any pics??
K..start off with some bypass pruners on those rods. Mikeee Searl wrote some articles on them somewhere! anyway he told me that he uses the bypass pruners.. he also collects the rods in the spring when they're much easier to peel. He also finds just the right willow rods too and then he bundles them and ties them real tight to dry so they're straight. He has plywood forms made up and lays the peeled rods on them. he clamps them down in the places where he is going to thread them and this makes it fairly quick and easy to drill each hole with precision. Mike also takes and uses a dremel tool with a 1/16" sharp awl pointed bit.. pretty sure on that bit size...anyway, he uses a dollmakers needle around 7" long to thread these rods with artificial sinew. He's made lots of them and also has an incredible lodge that he sometimes takes to national events. He has a long succession of beaded rosettes going up his 18'er that just knocks your socks off to look at.. he also has that lodge loaded with a lot of his braintanned things. Very beautiful.. I don't think he's ever lit a fire in that lodge..some lodges are just for looks and that one I believe is one of them! Personally.. it makes me want to have a bison hide tipi.. with all the trimmin's including a fire. Well good luck on your willow rod items.. I've never completed a one of the daing things but I have peeled quite a number of them. Best places I've found to collect them have been on rural roads where the road has been redone and the sides have been cut way back ,the regrowth after just a couple years seems to make for some really great collecting.. hope this helps.
He does paint these too and gets just the right effect with the paint.. let me know if you'd like his email too. I could find it easy enough, most likely.
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Post by redthunder on Jul 19, 2008 20:57:03 GMT -5
how to size, backrest.,
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Post by killstwo on Jul 19, 2008 21:48:46 GMT -5
Yeah, thats from the Laubin book. He does a great job explaining how to make one too. He says to make it while they're green though instead of letting the shoots dry first. I'm currently making my first as well, so I'm no help, except to tell you what not to do. lol
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Post by redthunder on Jul 19, 2008 23:18:52 GMT -5
right, its from Laubin book and very good one, recommend this book to you who are making tipis and tipistuff, get this book.,
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Post by redthunder on Jul 20, 2008 1:59:56 GMT -5
right, its from Laubin book and very good one, recommend this book to you who are making tipis and tipistuff, get this book., here is the book i recommend, The Indian Tipi by Reginald and Gladys Laubin, mine is from 1971, but think its a new printing 1993, you can find it easy in USA, i post on Book Treath as well.,
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Post by beaudro on Jul 21, 2008 15:54:57 GMT -5
Thanks for the pic redthunder. It will help. I"m also looking for the book today. Joanne i'm not sure when i'll get the tipi up and going, i've still got to cut a few more poles. I'll get pictures soon I hope. So far i've made one trip down to the Verdigras river and cut willow, it's about the only place i've spotted them where the willow grows straight enough for the backrest project. The tipi poles I've been all over the country, might head down to louisiana, or missouri, or colorado... the ice storm here last winter destroyed most all the trees so anything long and straight is going to be hard to find.
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Post by redthunder on Jul 21, 2008 23:29:03 GMT -5
I´m glad it help you beaudro. Hope you find the book, it must be more easy for you than me, since the book are printed in your country.
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