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Post by bamaman on Jul 21, 2008 10:42:31 GMT -5
I'm thinking about working on a new project and I wanted to get some input from you all. I was looking through my sketchbook of the 1837 Rendezvous and have been studying the section on the Hunter's Hood. I am thinking of making it out of Brain tanned Antelope skin because it is thinner and less stretchy. I live in Bama so most of the events that I go to are in the summer heat of the Southeast. Has anyone had any experience with Antelope to tell me how it is different than buckskin? I also have heard that it stretches less so I'm thinking that may help it stay on my topknot a little better.
I also haven't had any luck finding a pattern for a hunter's hood. If anyone has ever made one or knows of a pattern for it then I would be very gracious for the input. Thanks!
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Post by longtrail on Jul 21, 2008 12:47:12 GMT -5
The large book Mystic Warriors of the Plains has some sketches of hunting hoods. You can find patterns in the The Sketch Book Series out of the Museum of the Furtrade in Chadron NB.Can't remember exactly which sketchbook.
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Post by beaudro on Jul 21, 2008 15:34:02 GMT -5
Go for it Bamaman, Antelope is great stuff. There is a little documentation written about the caps that points to cotton or linen fabric being used also, of course wool was used. You can also bead on your antelope hood , edge bead around the face opening and the extra weight seems to help keep it in place some. I've seen they tie also, with a thong under the chin. As for stretch, I have a few antelope hides finished out and one stretches more than the other. This is my doings however, one isn't softened as well. Same goes for deer and elk. If I hand soften one it's lumpy, and does not lay out flat, but is really soft and has stretch to it. If softened in a frame it's more flat with less stretch. I often have to wet down some of my hides to flatten them out. Of course only with certain projects like a bag , but almost always on beaded or quilled items. They can pop the threads if they stretch too much. The few beaded and quilled items I own are done by other craftsmen not myself, because I do not quill or bead very well. I usually send them my project and they prefer me to wet the hide down and eliminate stretch. I just take a spray bottle and give the hide a couple of squirts, wait and let it dry, then see if it needs more. This works good for me, because I use this stuff and drag it around pretty hard sometimes. You may not horseback into camp and won't need to do it this way. The point was to get rid of stretch and I got into all this other stuff. Hope it helps, and by the way antelope is a great choice, need to see more of it around.
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Jul 21, 2008 16:53:48 GMT -5
bamaman, p.m. me your address and i'll send you a copy of direction on how to make a hunters hood. rex allen norman did a how to in muzzleloader magazine a few years back. it gives detailed drawings and directions on how to make it
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Jul 21, 2008 17:15:45 GMT -5
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Post by redthunder on Jul 21, 2008 23:48:11 GMT -5
great hood billy, think it not be so difficult to make a pattern on that with paper, only thoughts, it reminds much like a hood to make feather bonnet, have you thinking to quill that medicine wheel? should look more nice.
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Jul 22, 2008 12:07:36 GMT -5
thanks red thunder. makeing a pattern out of paper wasn't real hard. the 1837 rendezvous scketch book show a couple of different styles, but don't show no way to put one together. i stummbled accross the pattern in a old MUZZLELOADER magazine. it shows four different patterns in good detail. the problem is the pattern is for someone with a head the size of a buffalo's head. so it's hard to wear. will make me another one but not like the pattern shows. yes the medicine wheel would look better if it was quilled. just ain't came up with no good ideas of what i want. maybe you have some pictures of some good ones
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Post by beaudro on Jul 22, 2008 12:46:26 GMT -5
Here is a little bit of the pages billy talked about, the first pic is an example of where and who it is beleived the hood developed from. Rindisbacher described them on Cree Indians. You may know, Antoine Clement was a half breed Cree Indian. This is probably why he would have wore one. you can see how to make a pattern from this one
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Post by redthunder on Jul 22, 2008 23:15:07 GMT -5
billy, here are some pictures on medicine wheel, but there are a lot of various colors to choose, my favorite are the 2 first pics, the other are not so good pics, hope you like some?
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Jul 23, 2008 18:02:57 GMT -5
wow redthunder thanks. i too like the first two the best
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Post by Cody ( The Patriot ) on Jul 23, 2008 21:56:47 GMT -5
Them hats look good just dont wear them around ShadyBills deer stand HE HE
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Jul 23, 2008 22:36:08 GMT -5
;D
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Post by hannes on Jul 24, 2008 13:04:44 GMT -5
redthunder, nice to be able to get on to the net. had no luck for a whole week. was scared i miss some good postings, why is photobucket taking off your pictures. is it maybe cause the quality of your work is so good?
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Post by redthunder on Jul 24, 2008 20:23:01 GMT -5
redthunder, nice to be able to get on to the net. had no luck for a whole week. was scared i miss some good postings, why is photobucket taking off your pictures. is it maybe cause the quality of your work is so good? sorry you was not able on net for a week, it happen sometimes, dont know why photobucket pics are gone, its not first time, what pics are missing? i cant go through all pics i post then i have to spend a day or two to find out,
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