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Post by longtrail on Jul 21, 2008 13:08:46 GMT -5
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Post by Cody ( The Patriot ) on Jul 21, 2008 15:35:27 GMT -5
LT whrer do you get your pumic it looks alot better than what I get
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Post by brainsoft on Jul 29, 2008 7:50:36 GMT -5
Try a hardware store paint section or Lowes or similar store. Manards too has them. Much better than your normal pumice stone. They are listed at 40-50 grit which is perfect.
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Post by joanne2 on Jul 29, 2008 8:14:14 GMT -5
The HD powerwashers (as in heavy duty) remove all the membrane. So you don't need a pumice stone at all when you use those! only problem with the lighter weight skins is that the smoke will bleed through the hair sides of the skins in those vein lines.. that looks kinda bizarre..but you don't have the fluff that comes along with membraneous tissue with the HD powerwashers. So..one could use the flesh side as the grainside easy when using a powerwasher.. JFYO (just for your information).
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Post by brainsoft on Jul 30, 2008 21:20:43 GMT -5
Simply removing the membrane itself is not the primary reason for using pumice or some abrasive material on the membrane side.
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You still need to fluff up membrane side if your going to presmoke it or you will have a slick surface that will not have a rough surface to let the smoke cling to and penatrate the surface. If you are going to rebrain it, you need a non slick surface also.
If it is the last braining and your just working it till your done softening it, you still want a soft flesh side so using an abrasive of some sort is necessary for that. No matter if your doing the Dinsmore method, or any other methods, you want a soft underside or flesh side. If it is done properly, you will not have a lot of fluff. I have a stone as shown above I use and still if it is rougher than I like I go over it with a smaller grit stone. Years ago I removed it all with a power sander and you could not tell the front from the back as Joanne mentions with the Powerwasher. Makes for a nice hide if it is really thick but leaving some of that softer dermis under the membrane makes it more comfortable if your going to wear it next to your skin.
Using the Dinsomre method you really get two shots at getting the back or membrane side the way you want it. The last brain and working dry in the frame gives you a final shot at getting it the way you want it.
One I have the hide brained, I work it middle to side on both sides and this also gets any stubborn membrane left.
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Post by longtrail on Jul 31, 2008 14:19:32 GMT -5
If you will notice in our method, if we do decide to remove the excess membrane from the flesh side of the hide, we do that step AFTER the hide is totally softened and dried, so the membrane on the back has nothing to do with the hide softening or not.
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Post by brainsoft on Aug 2, 2008 8:08:59 GMT -5
Just a habit with me that anytime a hide is worked dry in the frame or otherwise, I sand it front and back prior to smoke hitting it.
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Post by brainsoft on Aug 2, 2008 8:11:42 GMT -5
Also noticed you do a really light smoke. I like this as you can get an almost white hide this way. My first two batches of smoked hides your way, were smoked darker and after sanding they came out a nice beige or light buckskin color. Can leave them as is or smoke more but I really like the light stuff.
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