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Post by intothewest1836 on Jun 25, 2009 17:36:44 GMT -5
what kind of camp gear do i need to be for the best camp?
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Jun 25, 2009 18:27:43 GMT -5
that would depend on a couple of things things. first how historically correct do you want to be what time period are you portraying.
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Post by beaudro on Jun 25, 2009 18:33:47 GMT -5
This is a good topic, and much easier than sewing! The best answer is less stuff, but a few things are hard to do without. It's real easy to end up with a trailer full of stuff if your not careful. I would start with a good bedroll, one or two wool blankets rolled up in an oil cloth, or a buffalo hide is even better. Most of your gear can be rolled up in that , no "possibles" bags if you can do without it. You can do best by staying away from those big iron cooking racks and spits too , no dutch ovens and certainly no enamel ware pots. A sheet iron kettle is the most common pot for us , it'll look like a shiny paint can sort of , I get mine from Giodarna Tinsmith, they cost a little but fit in much better. You can have them tinned or left plain. Here's a few journal entries for them. Journal of a Trapper By Osborne Russell 1834
Our Camp Kettles had not been greased for some time: as we were continually boiling thistle roots in them during the day: but now four of them containing about 9 gallons each were soon filled with fat bear meat Irvings Astoria The two Canadians, Vallee and Le Clerc, killed a young buffalo bull in the evening, which was in good condition, and afforded them a plentiful supply of fresh beef. They loaded their spits, therefore, and crammed their camp kettle with meat, and while the wind whistled, and the snow whirled around them, huddled round a rousing fire, Jed Smith, the first question he asked me was, have you any water? I told him I had plenty and handed him the kettle, which would hold 6 or 7 quarts, Trade List of John McKnight 1822 6 brass kettles 2 nests tin kettles 14 in a nest 1 tin kettle Ferris's life in the rockies part 4. with the frequent addition of a large kettle of coffee,
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Post by intothewest1836 on Jun 25, 2009 18:43:43 GMT -5
buckskin billy boo talks pretty good about you. i ran into him at a camp recent and got to talking with him all about things people do at the events. I try to portrey an 1836 trapper for stewert the ones miller painted. i trap in real life and brain tan some so i should be good for this i hope. i read a few books but i not real good on net to find more information out. Lucky for me I got a wife to help with that. i try to do better than what i see at the vooz i have went to so far. so far i got a good shirt sewed up and starting on pants tonight. thinking on what other gear I need, my gun is a caywood but don't know much more about guns for this. i want to do this right no silly stuff like i see going on
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Jun 25, 2009 20:41:26 GMT -5
well as you may already know , most trappers didn't use a shelter much. it is too damn hard to tote around on horse back, along with everything else "they" needed to survive. from my understanding stewart was a rich man, so he was able to afford a few more horse and other luxuries that a common mountain trapper couldn't, so in miller's painting you will probadly see more tents being used. that is my opinion on that matter. one must remember that miller's paintings are art, and art is interperted different from one person to the next.
this is my thoughts and i fell i'm purdy dern close. much closer than what the normal rendezvouers are. i would get a small or medium wedge tent. if your wife does it with you, you may need a little bigger to keep her comfortable. i wouldn't worry about no iron tri pods or fancy dancy cook ware. get you a couple of "S" hooks or a old deer horn to hang a kettle on. a tin cup a tin plate, a fork knife and spoon.( i know miller said nothing like a fork to be used) as far as sleeping i do like beaudro does a oil cloth a couple of wool blankets and roll every thing together and go. your on the right track with clothing. as far as mocs are concern the pucker toes look the best to me, but are a little time consuming in making, the side seam or salish are by far the easiest to make and were very common during that time
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Post by intothewest1836 on Jun 25, 2009 21:37:40 GMT -5
thank you much buckskin billy. from what i hear i don't think i will be using any tent but i think an oil cloth sounds good to use. the mockersons i can make ok but finding the red wool is tough. I sure cant find that trade cloth wool so i will wait for right stuff. I dont no much about research and art but what i see is what i can do, or hope to make sense of it. I just dont wont the stuff i see at vooz today. not much makes sense. if my wife ever goes she might want a teepee but she dont no yet. thanks for your help
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Jun 25, 2009 21:52:47 GMT -5
don't tell no one but for the red i put on my mocs are red flannel like you can get at wal-mart. wool is expensive and you never see none of it here in the south. the red flannel is cheap and looks real good and no one knows unless you tell them. so keep that to yourself you hear, don't want that getting out
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