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Post by beaudro on Jan 16, 2008 14:05:42 GMT -5
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Jan 16, 2008 16:03:11 GMT -5
that is real nice.i like it a lot.glad you joined up with us.
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Post by joanne on Jan 16, 2008 20:10:43 GMT -5
That is real nice, I like it, too. How's it going, Allen?
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Post by Grizz on Jan 16, 2008 20:55:53 GMT -5
Nice work man.
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Post by miss-deer-slayer on Jan 16, 2008 22:05:41 GMT -5
great job! i love it!
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Post by joanne on Jan 17, 2008 6:20:13 GMT -5
Allen.. those white twisty lines near the stripes are those quills, too? and how long did it take you to do this project. and did you color the quills black? Are these quills from a porcupine who's quills you harvested yourself? Sometimes I pick them up on the road and skin them but usually they just become a danger to my kids and my own barefeet! One year I had a skin get mixed up in my firewood pile.. all these quills pop when they're burning. But anyway the art does fascinate me and your work here just looks great.. nice and neat. Good job.
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Post by cooner on Jan 17, 2008 14:41:49 GMT -5
That's your forst shot at Quillwork? Those are nice straight rows. Very even and neatly done.
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Post by beaudro on Jan 18, 2008 18:06:24 GMT -5
wow, didn't know i had a reply,, I can't lie, I didn't do that quill work. A lady down near houston Texas did it for me, Katie York. I just wanted to copy what I seen on one of Miller's paintings, and she added the scallop lines. Yes, joanne, it's all quill. This is two different types of quill work, straight line quill and plaiting. The porcupine quill is dyed before using, and she used silk thread to make sure we were authentic. I have been trying quill work, it's not easy, I love the stuff though, it's well worth the money paid to own any, but it's going to take me a long time to get it down.
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Jan 18, 2008 18:21:09 GMT -5
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Post by beaudro on Jan 19, 2008 19:45:20 GMT -5
Along with the Native Tech site there is a good book out called " A quillwork companion" , Jean Heinbuch . Alot of people use native tech for patterns and more, but if your a big fan of quill this book helps even further.
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Post by badhand on Jan 24, 2008 21:48:30 GMT -5
BB thanks for the site I have a lot of quills that are sorted and dyed so i just might give it a try. That is nice work. There are some real talanted people joining this site.
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Post by longtrail on Feb 14, 2008 14:38:15 GMT -5
Very nice quill work. Silk thread eh? That is interesting. It is amazing to me how old examples of bead and quill work are done with real sinew. I have worked with sinew some and it sinewsucks! We see lots of dead porkeys around here, I might have to try that for myself some time. Thanks for sharing. lt
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Post by beaudro on Feb 14, 2008 16:22:20 GMT -5
Longtrail, a woman named Katie York (whitebyrd) did that for me, the silk thread was common during the fur trade period so it's period correct thing to use, I suppose it gives us a good break since sinew is a little hard to work with. I'm trying to work quill and having little success, I really need a teacher to show me , or at least get to watch someone close enough. Katie hangs out in your part of the country, although she's from Houston area , she does alot of traveling maybe you have ran across her before. here is the link to her website. www.whytebyrd.com/gallery_2/gallery.html
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Feb 15, 2008 10:29:26 GMT -5
i found some 100% organic cotton thread,made in the good ole U.S.OF A. they claim it to be all natural.in my mind cotton thread should be auethenic.i know it is post civil war.but wouldn't it been avilible pre 1840?i've read that some buckskin garments were taylored made.i've also read the indian women living near forts would use what was aviliable from the forts.what do yall think
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Post by beaudro on Feb 15, 2008 11:23:04 GMT -5
Unless it just bugs the heck out of a person, i wouldnt care what thread anyone uses, this hobby will drive you nuts if you sweat the little stuff too bad. Linen thread seems to be the norm for trade era clothing, I'm not even sure where silk thread came into play, but not many people can see the difference and it's such a little thing I try not to bother with it. The only thing that I'm trying to figure out is when I try to lay quills the modern bead thread that I use slips back and loosens up on me. Then the quill unfolds and I have a mess, I think it's because the thread is so smooth? I might try to switch to silk thread, authentic silk is not as smooth and it may bite and not slip back,,, i can be wrong about that , it's another reason why i could use expert advise on it. I could try linen thread if I could find some small enough. I should try to quill more often also, i think it's just one of those crafts that takes a long time to master and you have to do it alot.
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