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Post by Grizz on Apr 27, 2008 8:02:35 GMT -5
Billy & myself melted down some old tire weights yesterday that I got from the tire store. Ended up being about 40 pounds worth. We used a fish cooker and a stainless steel pot. ***WARNING*** If you do this you will be working with molten lead. Be sure to wear safety glasses, long sleeves and pants with boots....no shorts and flip flops Try to not breathe the fumes either. One drop of sweat will cause the lead to explode also. Be careful folks, this stuff can hurt ya bad...quickly too. We always make sure we are under a roof also, one drop of sweat, rain, tree sap or etc., will cause you all kind of grief. on the heat the molds we used for ingots all melted and needing to have the impurities skimmed off skimming ready to pour in the molds pouring all poured up and back to a solid state finished product
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Post by caretaker on Apr 27, 2008 8:51:06 GMT -5
Don`t think I `d like that lead piazin xpecially if`n it came frum the bussiness end of a shooter. your right bout being cautioun meltin lead. I use to make my own doll flys.
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Post by jug on Apr 27, 2008 18:24:44 GMT -5
Dangerous stuff there guys!! Lead poison sthneaks up on a fellar and next thing he know he in big trouble.
Take care to watch your toe and finger nails.
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Post by phoenix1967 on Apr 28, 2008 0:15:13 GMT -5
Unless you are working with it every day (like making batteries), it's not as dangerous as it's made out to be. Largest risk is in fetal/childhood development. It IS possible, with constant exposure, to develop heavy metal poisoning later in life (Dementia) Interesting side note: tha Phrase "Mad as a Hatter" is a leftover from 1700's to 1800's England where hat makers frequently used mercury to form the brims of the hat. Generally, by thier mid 30's , they were in an asylum somewhere eating bugs and gibbering to themselves.
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Post by jug on Apr 28, 2008 7:14:04 GMT -5
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Apr 28, 2008 12:02:02 GMT -5
hell i do that already.gibbering to myself and eating bugs. can't blame it on the lead though. i did all of this before i started molding bullets ;D
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Post by phoenix1967 on Apr 28, 2008 12:51:54 GMT -5
Somthin wrong with that boy....
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Post by jug on Apr 28, 2008 14:46:28 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with me I just like to think safety.
And it wouldn't hurt if you working with lead all the time to go have a blood test. Might save you from having a heart attack or kidney trouble when ya gets some age on ya.
I've managed to live to a pretty ripe old age and no heart trouble, kidney or liver problems. ;D
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Post by phoenix1967 on Apr 28, 2008 19:41:31 GMT -5
Naw Jug, I was referin to Billy! Truth is, lead has traditionally been a problem because of plumbing and paint. Up till the 1930's, lead pipes were common. after that we switched to copper pipe, and used lead based solder. After lead was removed from paint, and most plumbing replaced with PVC, the average percentages in the blood of the people dropped way down. I have a dear friend, I'd call him brother, who worked for Exide. He made Batteries for 20 years, had his blood checked weekly, never came close to a dangerous dose. The key, as Jug explained, is sanitation. Use the same clothes each time you work with lead, and leave them outside the house, like in a locker. As Jug stated, clean under fingernails, and shower as soon as you are finnished with your work. Keep in mind that the Dross that you skim contains a large amount of lead, and arsenic, so be careful how you dispose of it.
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Post by cooner on Apr 28, 2008 19:52:19 GMT -5
Another point you may want to consider is once you use cast iron for a mold with lead don't ever use it to make cornbread or any thing else you want to eat in it. Cast iron is porous and there is no way you will ever get all the lead oxides out of the iron. I use frying pans for melting lead plates and casting plates for silversmithing. I told my wife that those cast iron skillets get buried with me so no one on down the line ever eats out of them.
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Apr 28, 2008 21:46:40 GMT -5
thanks for the safty concerns yall. lead is nothing to play with. all of the cast iron pots and cornbread molds along with the spoons and ladels, have been pass down to me. a dear friend of mine who will be 76 years young this year took me under his wing and showed me the safe and right way to cast bullets. he has gotten to the point in his life where he don't shoot as much as he use to. moving to town has that effect. so instead of letting his molding stuff collect dust he passed it along to me. none of the stuff used has ever been used for cooking food nor will it. most times when we melt down tire weights to ingots we do it outside. but it was cloudy that day,and safety being my and grizzs number one concern we put the stuff inside his shop with the door opened and a window unit air conditioner running on high. we also stood outside while waiting on the lead to melt. i wear gloves and safty glasses while pouring up the lead. i will pour the lead in a couple of molds and quickly go outside and get some fresh air. we do not stay couped up for very long. i'm no expert and don't claim to be but i've made enough bullets in my short little life to understand the hazzards and don't screw around with anything that has a great safty concern. grizz knows me and those who have been on this forum for awhile should know by now that i'm full of shit as a christmas turkey. i joke and clown around every chance i get. but when it comes to guns and all that concerns them be it shooting,cleaning reloading or casting bullets,before i lay a hand on it i have done as much research as i can on it. so as i got a preaty good idea of what i 'm doing. i turned 35 this year and am still wet behind the ears, and continue to learn new stuff everyday. but in my 35 short years have been exposed to every kind of legal firearm. guns are my passion. my dad has been reloading for close to 50 years has taught me a life time of knowlegde. along the way i have meet other experiance shooters, and all the leasons that i have learn have always began with know how to do it safely ;D
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Post by jug on Apr 29, 2008 17:32:26 GMT -5
I've seen lead and arsenic poisoning. The reason for my concern.
First thing you notice is a change in your fingernails. They get an odd shape to them and then they turn a very white color.
It's a hard thing to diagnose. They have to take nail triminngs and hair to really get a clear picture of what's going on.
Knew a man whose wife was feedling him arsenic for several years. He kept gettin sick with one thing or another. Time they found out what was going on with him it was too late.
They investigated his wife and found she had killed her Dad, brother, 1st husband and my friend.
Who knew???
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Apr 29, 2008 21:41:54 GMT -5
thanks for the concern jug. it never hurts to go over safety precautions. it don't matter how much experiance a person has with handling dangerous materials, you can still get hurt or become sick if your not careful. practicing safety measures is just like target shooting. it gets you ready for when it counts.
sorry about what happened to your friend. there's a special place for people like her. i have never been able to understand such meaness.
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Post by jug on Apr 30, 2008 13:34:03 GMT -5
Me either. They tried her in another state besides TN. She had done the other killings in another state. I'm sure she got the max.
I think, if my memory holds, it was all over money. Her inheritance.
I'm not sure what prompted her to kill my friend. Unless she was afraid he was going to out live her or something.
People do crazy things over money.
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Post by twistedmetalworks on Apr 27, 2011 10:11:27 GMT -5
In Michigan the local health dept. will draw some blood and test ya fer heavy metals and such if ya ask em, used to be free, think it still might be. I think they do as a part of thier occupational health and safety programs. It produces flu like symptoms at low exposure levels and can certainly cause all sorts of secondary problems witch might not be attributed to lead unless you mentioned it to yer doc. I've had to take 4 diff lead safety classes in the last 2 years to qualify for certain work.
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