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Post by badhand on Jun 6, 2008 19:19:05 GMT -5
These are 2 of the pipes I am working on the dark red was longer but I dropped it sometimes my hands don't do what they are supposed to. The light red is a work in progress I am trying to carve a horse's head.
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Post by caretaker on Jun 6, 2008 20:11:50 GMT -5
very nice. I haven`t tried to carve stone for pipes yet. Still workin on gettin the wood hollow. Got some hollow now and prayin over the rest. My hands hardly ever do what my brain tells them to do. Sumptin gets lost in translation.. Like I said beautiful pipes.
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Jun 6, 2008 20:26:17 GMT -5
beautiful pipes badhand can't wait to see the finish project
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Post by beaudro on Jun 6, 2008 22:07:51 GMT -5
that looks like good catlinite and good work on it also. I don't know what you carve with. I just put it in my vise, tighten it lightly and use a rasp. I'll start with a coarse rasp and end up with a fine file. Might use sandpaper or scotchbrite. When i'm finally done i'll rub melted beeswax on it, then place it in the oven at low temp until it's just about melted off, buff it down with a rag and i'm done. I havn't broke one yet, i'm surprised, but i have been pretty rough with the material. I think i'm inspired to make another one, but i'm due to have my shoulder operated on and might be out of commission for a little while.
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Post by beaudro on Jun 6, 2008 22:13:45 GMT -5
Caretaker, how are you trying to get the hole in the stem? I take a long rod, a straight coathanger wire works, but i'm using a long acetylene welding rod. Anything will work, heat it up with a propane torch and keep running it through the "pith" of the stem. Sumac is some of the best wood because the center, pith, is so easy to get out. It also leaves the perfect size hole.
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Post by beaudro on Jun 7, 2008 4:47:34 GMT -5
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Post by joanne2 on Jun 7, 2008 6:45:30 GMT -5
Looks pretty nice what you have going there Badhand. Sorry to hear about both you and Boudreau's health issues.. not much fun and makes it difficult to do what you love doing the most it seems! Nice pipes Redthunder. I'm glad that you all found one another here to share this knowledge with. Makes it fun for us who know nothing of this pipemaking work! I look forward to seeing your finished pieces too BH! thanks for sharing.
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Post by caretaker on Jun 7, 2008 9:17:56 GMT -5
Some ofthe wood is cured enuff that all I have to do is tap it and blow through it. The other I am using a heated copper rod or a heated coat hanger. Slow and careful. Started on short pieces and workin my way to longer stems. like I said my first pipe will probably get a few chuckles as I have a painted stone turtle that I plan to hollow out and use for a bowl.
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Post by beaudro on Jun 8, 2008 18:39:39 GMT -5
Caretaker, i think your going to be just fine, sounds like you got good ideas, and willing helpers, haha. Redthunder, and Badhand are helping us both out. I looked up that bluestone, it's beautiful stuff and I' don't remember seeing it before, but here's what I have found. Blue Pipestone - Also a form of catlinite, blue pipestone was used almost predominantly by the Plains Tribes for ceremonial pipes. Deposits of the stone are also found in South Dakota. The use of blue pipestone coincided with the arrival of the horse among the Plains Tribes.
Bluestone - a hard, greenish-blue quartzite stone from the southern Appalachian Mountains. After being worked, it takes on a decidedly greenish cast. This stone was used by several Eastern Woodlands tribes for pipemaking. Cherokee, Creek, and Chickasaw made pipes from bluestone. Several ancient Mississippian bluestone pipes have been discovered.
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Post by beaudro on Jun 8, 2008 18:40:39 GMT -5
Badhand, is that Utah catlinite, or minnesota? I get both from time to time, and I can't tell the difference.
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Post by 3balls on Jun 8, 2008 20:22:37 GMT -5
A partner of mine gave me a pipe stone today. guess i'll be building one along with you guys
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