killstwo
Button Buck
I will teach you about my people, but you won't get the nice version. You'll get the truth.
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Post by killstwo on Jul 13, 2008 23:31:21 GMT -5
redthunder...I LOVE that hair ornament. did you make that?
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Post by joanne2 on Jul 14, 2008 8:34:05 GMT -5
I like the dew claw bag.. the legskins look like they may be pretty soft.. are they braintanned and did you make the bag as well? Lovely work.
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Post by longtrail on Jul 14, 2008 8:35:53 GMT -5
Nice deer leg bag. Would like to see a photo of just it. Always interesting to see how folks use those legs. dlt thanks
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Post by joanne2 on Jul 14, 2008 8:50:06 GMT -5
Wow.. and a minute apart..LOL
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Post by longtrail on Jul 14, 2008 8:57:05 GMT -5
Going to your home and seeing all the beautifully crafted item you make would be like entering into a museum, or CANDYSHOP. dlt
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Post by longtrail on Jul 14, 2008 11:44:40 GMT -5
OMG, thats so friggin beautiful it almost hurt to look at it. I can hardly type. IN AWE. dlt
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Post by longtrail on Jul 14, 2008 21:58:14 GMT -5
Just joshing about the pain. Just an expression.
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Post by hannes on Jul 16, 2008 12:51:47 GMT -5
REDTHUNDER , YOU ARE A MASTER CRAFTSMAN!
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Post by longtrail on Jul 17, 2008 12:16:43 GMT -5
I like the beaver shield so much.
I was wondering about the feathers you use. Are they actually hawk or eagle owl ? Are any feathers illegal to own there where you are from? A while back a fellow from Germany sent me photos of their Native American Re-enactments, and they use eagle feathers because they are not illegal to own in Germany. The head dresses were amazing. Along with everything else in their camp.
I have seen some pretty good imitations, believe it or not, made with white feathers and brown shoe polish. Are the blue feathers dyed? If not, what sort of bird is it from? Again, very nice. dlt
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Post by beaudro on Jul 17, 2008 21:52:47 GMT -5
According to federal law in the United States, it's still hard to have eagle feathers. The eagle feather law provides certain exceptions to federal wildlife laws regarding eagles and other migratory birds to enable Native Americans to continue to practice traditional indigenous religious and spiritual customs, of which the use and possession of eagle feathers is central.
Under the current language of the eagle feather law, only individuals of certifiable Native American ancestry enrolled in a federally recognized tribe are legally authorized to obtain eagle feathers. Non-natives who are caught with an eagle feather in their possession can be fined up to $25,000.
Obtaining an eagle permit under the eagle feather law can be complicated. To legally possess eagle feathers for use in Native American spiritual practices, citizens must first be able to legally prove their ethnicity. This is generally accomplished by providing documentation of Native American ancestry officially recorded in the original Dawes Rolls (or Final Rolls of Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes, or the Dawes Commission of Final Rolls) and documentation of current membership in a federally recognized tribe. Although this sounds like all you have to do is get the permit, a good freind of mine in the Oto tribe he has tried and it's not happening yet. Here in Oklahoma there are 38 federally recognized tribes and it's still a hassle to obtain a permit to own and possess an eagle feather. They supposedly eased up on the taking of eagles in the last year, but I beleive it's only in certain areas of the United States and for wildlife control only.
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Post by Buckskin Billy on Jul 17, 2008 22:37:18 GMT -5
what about having hawk feathers
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killstwo
Button Buck
I will teach you about my people, but you won't get the nice version. You'll get the truth.
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Post by killstwo on Jul 17, 2008 22:41:08 GMT -5
as a registered santee, i can tell you that it is very difficult to obtain feathers through the registry in colorado. it is because only the eagles and/or feathers that are turned in, can be distributed. many wicasa wakan have gone to obtaining feathers the old way, building traps, catching them for a couple feathers and letting them go. then he distributes as he sees fit. which is the way it should be. (stepping away from the soapbox marked"tribal sovereignty") anyway, i'm a bit of a traditionalist, as some of you know, and all our feathers are earned. this is not the place for where this talk might go, so I'll close here. mitakuye
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killstwo
Button Buck
I will teach you about my people, but you won't get the nice version. You'll get the truth.
Posts: 36
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Post by killstwo on Jul 17, 2008 22:42:59 GMT -5
ps...hawk feathers are also a no-no. i have also seen white friends loose duck and goose feathers because they also fall under the migratory bird protection act.
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